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02 September: Italian Grand Prix - FIA Friday Press Conference Max
MOSLEY (FIA President) Max MOSLEY: First of all thank you all very much for coming. The purpose of this brief press conference today is to announce the appointment of AMD, represented here by Mr Henri Richard, as the official technology partners of the FIA. This is, for us, a very significant matter because they have already worked with us on the FIA/AMD survey which I think you’re familiar with in principle, because some of the results have been released. But the full, raw data is now available on a compact disc for anybody who wants it, in the press centre and on our web site. If I could just remind you, the main results of that survey were that 94 percent of our fans wanted more overtaking; 88 percent said that showcasing the skills of the drivers is the most essential aspect of Formula One; 80 percent agreed that advanced technology sets F1 apart, so the technology was important; 74 percent wanted more emphasis on driver skill; and 64 percent – a surprising amount – look forward to the technical innovations each season. Now that is extremely important information for us because it has enabled us to target the regulation changes for 2008 in a much more efficient way. They will now reflect more accurately the views of the millions of fans worldwide than they would otherwise have done, based on more than 93,000 people filling in a very detailed questionnaire. For that we are very, very grateful to AMD, and that was the first stage of our partnership. But a more important aspect of the partnership is about to begin. We have an issue in Formula One with overtaking. We didn't realise how important that was to the fans until recently. There was a theory that some people like basketball with lots of goals, some like football with few goals. Maybe overtaking wasn’t so important, but 94 percent of the fans say that it is. Now there have been various attempts to solve the problem which is that the car behind needs to be something like two seconds a lap faster, on the average circuit, before it can overtake the car in front. The only way to solve that problem is some really original thinking. We first attempted to solve the problem by saying ‘well, we will run some simulations and see what we do to the downforce to make overtaking possible’ and the answer was 90 percent less downforce, much much bigger wheels and tyres. But I think everyone agrees that 90 percent less downforce, even with bigger wheels and tyres, would make the cars too slow - too slow compared to other forms of single seater motor racing, and therefore we would either have to change everything worldwide or find another solution. Finding another solution means somebody has got to do something really clever and what AMD have done is make available to us an immensely powerful computer – it will be one of the most powerful in the world – which will enable us to run, using computational fluid dynamics (CFD), a number of programmes which will be the equivalent to turning up here with two Formula One cars and a vast number of people who can make bits of pieces for you and trying all the different bits and pieces and getting two drivers to run round in different configurations, one against the other. All of that we are going to be able to do on a computer, all of that we are going to be able to do before the end of the year so we that will be able to publish these regulations before the end of the year. We think we know what to do. We have to validate it and then we have to optimise it and the calculating power to do that is immense. That’s what AMD are making available to us and we are very grateful. So that is the purpose of today’s meeting and I’m going to ask Henri Richard to say a few words to you in a moment. Then if everybody’s interested I can tell you where we’ve got to on our thinking about Formula One regulations for 2008, following the consultation period we have had since the beginning of July, but more of that in a moment. Henri Richard. Henri RICHARD: Thank you Max. Well, first I want to thank you for being here, thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the sport of Formula One, and to help the FIA in this endeavour. As some of you may know, AMD has been involved in Formula One since 2002. We are a micro-processor company; we’re all about bringing technology and innovation to the masses. And what we have discovered with our involvement with Formula One is that one of the highest technology sports in the world where real information technology is now at the centre of performance, was not well understood by the fan base. You know, 20 years ago, the last people that would leave the pits were the mechanics. The reality is that today the last people that leave the pits are the software engineers and the hardware engineers. And that’s not well understood in the market. We are all about bringing innovation and new micro-processor technology to the masses and we felt there was a huge opportunity to bring the customer base, the fan base, closer to the reality of the technology. About a year ago Max and I were together and we were thinking about how could we do this? Well, one way was of course to sponsor this survey and help find out what was really important to the fans. Furthermore, we then realised that there were some challenges that the FIA was facing in order to bring new regulations and those challenges were actually easier to solve in the virtual world of computing and computational fluid dynamics than in the real world and so we decided to make available our 64 bit technology to the FIA in order to help them in that endeavour, and here we are. MM: Thank you very much, thank you Henri. Well, perhaps it would be interesting if I quickly go through the new thinking on Formula One. As you know, we sent out a complete set of regulations at the beginning of July. And very soon after that had been circulated to the World Council, which was done in June, we got the results of the survey so we had had to rethink the regulations in the light of that survey. We’ve also talked, individually, to several Formula One teams and a number of other stakeholders, and quite recently collectively to the Formula One teams, so we’ve had input from them. And where we are now, is, I think getting really quite close to knowing what we’re really going to do. Quickly and I hope briefly: on the aerodynamics, we are going to limit downforce for the first time by quantity rather than by fixing bodywork dimensions and hoping we get the downforce right. In other words, we are going to say the car must never have more than N thousand newtons of downforce in any circumstances. You can work on the drag but you can’t exceed that downforce. Now that is a fairly dramatic change but the fact that it is necessary is perfectly illustrated by this year where we had new regulations which were devised by the Technical Working Group, by the experts from the teams, with a view to reducing downforce by 25 percent. Well, what happened was that by the time we got to the beginning of the season most of the 25 percent has been recovered but worse than that, they recover it by putting all sorts of little bits and pieces and little winglets and tabs on the cars which have made the cars even more sensitive to the wake of the car in front, making overtaking even more difficult. So we haven’t lost the downforce and we have got an even bigger problem with the overtaking. It is simply the wrong way to go. For the last 38 years the FIA has tried to limit cornering speeds derived from aerodynamics by specifying the dimensions of the cars. We are going to do it in a more logical way in future which is specifying the maximum downforce and that will be the end of the discussion. In combination with this large downforce (reduction), we already have, as you know, in the regulations, much wider tyres, slicks, more grip. The net result will be that, to achieve the same lap times in 2008 as we anticipate in 2006, we will have in the order of, and this is still very approximate, but in the order of 50 percent of the downforce levels that we currently have. Obviously it varies from circuit to circuit but in the order of magnitude, 50 percent. Then in combination with measuring the downforce, we will also fit a high grip plank – we still call it the plank – that will be of a very high grip material, that will stop people running the plank on the ground to get round the downforce regulation in ways that technical people among you will see immediately. It is also a safety measure when the cars lose wheels. With some of the new tarmac run-offs, they are not losing speed as fast as they would… with high grip materials they will lose speed very quickly. It was a request from the drivers when I had a meeting with them. Entirely sensible. We will try to do that sooner, but we will definitely do it in 2008. And then finally, as I have already mentioned, we are doing this very, very significant investigation into overtaking and by the end of the year we're very confident that by the end of the year we will have the problem solved. Just to explain, just in case anybody’s in any doubt, the problem we have at the moment is that the car in front interferes with the aerodynamics of the car behind so the car behind is unable to run closer in the corners, it is unable to do what it has to do to be able to overtake. That problem we believe is soluble and with the aid of these computing facilities for which, thanks to AMD, we think we are going to have the answer. When we've validated the concept and started the process of optimisation, we will then discuss it with any Formula One team that’s interested with a view to getting assistance in optimising still further the final dimensions. But one must recognise that those teams which have the necessary facilities will be flat out preparing their car for 2006 and one can’t expect them to do the work of the federation. That’s why it’s such a major step for us to get from where we were, which was having to ask the teams’ advice on everything to do with aerodynamics to being able to do this ourselves. It’s very significant. On the engine, there’s a lot of discussion currently on the V8/V10 equivalence. At the moment, as you know, there is a proposal to keep the V8/V10 equivalence in 2008 and thereafter as a means of providing an inexpensive engine for entry level teams and things of that kind. Increasingly, now, this is making some of the teams uneasy which one can understand and it may be that we end up with no V10 equivalence but a rev-limited V8. This is very much on the agenda for 2008, because is there any point in seeking to run engines faster and faster? Would it not be more rational to limit them, at say, 18,000rpm. Then any work on the engine would be looking for great efficiency in that rev range, rather than always trying to go faster and faster. We’re going to see 20,000 rpm next year. This is not a region in which it is likely that road cars will every wish to operate, because it is so inefficient, so we’re looking at that very carefully. We are also looking closely at introducing hybrid technology into Formula One. I think there’s widespread agreement for that among the manufacturers. Briefly, that would involve a device on the car which would accumulate energy while the brakes were on and release that energy whenever the driver wished, on the next straight. What we’re looking at the moment is something in the order of 50 to 60 kilos weight for the system, 60 horsepower for five seconds on the following straight, so several times a lap. And that, of course, is the future of road cars because everyone knows that eventually, when you put your brakes on in a road car all the energy will be saved, it will not be dissipated in heat into the atmosphere as it is at the moment and will then be deployed when you need it again for the car to roll forward. That is the future with road cars, it’s a long way in the future but it’s coming. It is entirely appropriate that performance from Formula One should come not so much from running engines incredibly fast but from running engines at racing speeds, the sort of speeds we’re used to now, but the bonus, the extra power coming from the ability to recover it when the car is braking and use it again when the car is on the next straight. I think what you can say about the use of hybrid technology in Formula One is that the only debate is when? We would like to see it in 2008; some manufacturers say that’s too soon. It’s a matter under discussion at the moment. The transmissions. It’s been suggested to us that the sporty car of the future won’t have a manual gear change, it will have a paddle change, and I think that’s probably true, so we’re prepared to go along with a paddle change to the transmission but we want standard internals for the gearboxes, so that we don’t have this absurd situation where each year a fortune is spent making the gears a little bit lighter, a little bit thinner, new gearbox, several million dollars. Nobody sees any of this, nobody gets any benefit, the public get nothing from it at all and it just costs a fortune. The top teams are changing the ratios now every 400kms, because that’s the life of the ratios. We want standard ratios, which they make themselves but we give them minimum size, minimum dimensions, minimum strength. Gearboxes last much longer. The brakes. There was a proposal to have standard brakes for cost reasons. It was pointed out to us by one of the big brake manufacturers that with the new, much bigger wheels, we’ve got room to fit much bigger brakes inside the wheel. That means the cost of the brakes will come down dramatically. So that’s a problem that really is self-solving if we go that way with the wheels. Therefore brakes will be free. And finally, on the tyres, all the tyre dimensions and things like that are in the regulations you’ve seen a long time ago, but the new technology that we will allow and indeed encourage with the tyres is active tyre pressures. That would have safety implications in Formula One, that’s to say the tyre could be maintained at a given a pressure at all times, actively. That has great safety implications for Formula One because we wouldn’t lose pressure when the safety car was out and things of that kind: different times of day, temperatures and so on. But for road cars that is a fundamental technology that has implications for noise, for performance and also, of course, for safety, fuel economy, all those elements. So that is a technology for the future of road cars. It’s quite challenging because if you want to have a system where you’re controlling the pressure remotely on a car where you changing the wheel in four seconds then obviously there are mechanical challenges there but we’re confident the teams, or the better teams will meet them, by 2008. Now finally, there are two other things you should be aware of. As you will already have noticed in the proposal at the beginning of July, after the end of the Concorde Agreement there will no longer be a restriction on a team selling its cars or selling any part of its cars, so entry level people will simply be able to buy a car from a big team and/or part of a car and that will be a completely private matter between the various teams and that will be possible after 2008. That will help new teams come in. We are looking at all elements – everything we’re doing – with a view to reducing costs because the costs are currently too high and they are getting higher every year. Particularly for entry level teams it’s a big problem. And then finally and perhaps most importantly in the long term, we are going to set up a commission for future technology, and this isn’t just for Formula One, it’s for all of motorsport. We will invite each major manufacturer to send one member to this commission, somebody not from motorsport but from the future R&D department of the company and also invite them if they wish to nominate an academic. This group will look at the technology that’s coming into the motor industry, in five, in ten and in 15 years time and see which, if any of these new technologies might be incorporated in Formula One. Formula One should be tied into the future of the motor industry, not in the elements that concern driver assistance – obviously the future of the road car is more and more that it will drive itself, less and less will it require a driver – talking longer term, but in the elements concerned with efficiency, fuel consumption, safety, braking, all the safety and efficiency elements. We hope that AMD will play a significant role in that group because the whole future of the car industry, particularly the things that we don’t so much want in Formula One – cars that drive themselves and so on – the whole future there is electronics. Electronics is going to solve the problems of congestion, it’s going to solve the problems of safety, all of those things are soluble with the sort of computing power that is going to become available. Henri Richard can tell you more about that than I can. That really concludes a brief outline of where we are at the moment. These regulations will be published before the end of 2005, they will come into force on the first of January, 2008. They will apply to the FIA Formula One World Championship from 2008 onwards and between now and then there will probably be quite a bit more consultation but what I’ve told you is that we’re now quite close to what we’re going to end up with. Do you wish to add anything, Henri? HR: AMD is about bringing ever more complex computing at declining cost to the market. We thought that there was an opportunity by bringing this relationship to a very close partnership to provide insight to the FIA not only for motor sport but also for production cars into what we are thinking about in 2010 and the further timeframe. The computing power that will be available by then at the cost that we’re foreseeing will make things that are impossible to dream about today every day technology and that’s really the interest of this partnership. I think we’re providing some computing power to the FIA to help them in their job today, and for us, we’re going to learn where the automotive industry is going and what sort of computing power they are going to need tomorrow based on our ability to innovate in that domain and that’s really a win-win situation. We’re very fortunate to be part of this endeavour. QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR Q: (Mike Doodson) Max, if we look back 15 years to the beginning of your
presidency it’s rather difficult to have thought then that 15 years hence, you, the great enemy of computer technology will have
got into bed – or perhaps I should have said the FIA should have got into bed – with a company like AMD. From a serious point of
view, will AMD's partnership with the FIA in any way compromise that feeling that you had then of cutting down the technology on the
cars and giving the drivers a greater role in their control and driving? Q:
(Dan Knutson – National Speedsport News) Max, on August 31, you had a meeting with the teams to listen to their proposals for the
future of F1. How did that meeting go, what did you think of their proposals and how with did those ideas mesh with the FIA’s? There wasn’t really any point of conflict and the only ongoing debate was this thing about the ECU which I mentioned just now which, it’s a simple choice. You can let them have the ECU but then we’ve got to give up with the traction control or vice versa. But I don’t think there is any serious issue at debate, there certainly wasn’t one on Wednesday with the teams, but I don’t think they are in a position to agree detailed rules among themselves. They’ve been talking for seven months and there aren’t any, so one has to assume there are difficulties. But that isn’t really our concern. We will go ahead and listen to everybody but in the end we will publish the regulations. Q:
(Matt Bishop – F1 Racing) Max , how will the downforce limit be policed and just as important, how can you convince the teams,
media and public that it is being properly policed? Q:
(Anne Giuntini – L’Equipe) Don’t you think the main problem about the standard ECU is the difference of interests between the
teams because TAG is involved, Bosch, Magnetti Marelli? Who will build the constructors of the standard ECU? Q: (Andreas
Gröbl – Die Presse) Getting back to what Matt asked you first, wouldn’t you have to bring some kind of wind tunnel equipment to
the race tracks to actually measure the downforce? Q:
(Andreas Gröbl – Die Presse) And also you mentioned that the computer fluid dynamics were even better than some wind tunnel
equipment that the teams could offer you. Would that, in the long term mean that that’s end of wind tunnels in general? Because
the teams would also be using this technology. Q: (Dom Taylor – F1 Racing) Max, you say that you were surprised to find that fans were
interested in technological innovation. But then your argument for standard gearboxes appears to rest on the fact that fans don’t
care about the technology inside gearboxes. Could you just explain that apparent contradiction? Q: (Dieter Rencken – The Citizen) – AMD have been involved in Formula One for a
few years as a sponsor of a front-running team. Will this deal be continued now that you will be working with the FIA? There could
be allegations that some of the data that the FIA find out could be passed on to that leading team. Also, there are rules in place
to make it hard for teams entering Formula One who actually have the money to do it. Are the FIA going to do anything to change
that? MM: It would be very easy for us to go to a department or plant of AMD anywhere in the world and simply use their in-house computer facilities to use our software on but this is not what we’re going to do because it would not be 100 per cent secure. Instead what will happen is that AMD will deliver their latest machine to us and we will use it away from everyone else, in secret if you like. We will take it to a secret location and do our research there so that there is no clash of interests. AMD agreed to this without any problem. In response to the second question, the current Concorde Agreement runs until the end of the 2007 season and it says that one of the rules is that you have to be a manufacturer in that you have to build your own car. In our set of rules for 2008 that stipulation has been left out so that current teams will be able to sell their old cars and engines to new teams so that they can enter much more cheaply. As to the $48 million entry bond that new teams have to pay, that regulation is part of the sporting regulations not the technical regulations. If that requirement is put in a new Concorde Agreement then we won’t sign it. We put it in when there were too many teams and some were running around 15 seconds a lap slower than the leaders so we had to ensure that only serious entries could compete, but over the past few years we have seen a reduction in numbers down to 10 teams primarily due to cost issues. Q: (Dieter Rencken – The Citizen) The question comes out muffled. Q: (James Allen – ITV) Max, you seem to be converging with the teams on many issues whereas before you
appeared to be diverging from them in terms of what your ideals were for the future of the sport. To what extend were the incidents
at Indianapolis the catalyst for the change of direction? Also you mentioned that with active tyre pressure controls that it would
be a challenge to change pressures remotely on tyres that can be changed in four seconds, so does that mean tyre changes are coming
back? Q:
(Steve Cooper – F1 Racing) Max, you have spoken about re-designing the cars to improve the possibility of overtaking, but what
about re-designing the tracks to make overtaking easier? Q: GP2 has been a brilliant season for overtaking and has been really exciting. Should
Formula One be looking to that example as a way to make races more exciting for the fans? Q: Adam Hay-Nicholls (Two Paws Agency) To
Henri, how will the computer equipment that AMD give to the FIA be different from the computers that Ferrari are using at the
moment? Q: Dominic Fugère (Le Journal de Montréal) You said that Ferrari and
Sauber are your partners in Formula One and that they use your products. What about the other teams you mentioned? Who are they and
what is the limit of your involvement with them? Q: (Dominic Fugère – Le Journal de Montréal) – How secure will your systems be within the
FIA? Do you have enough firewalls to stop any information leaking out to the teams? What are you doing to make sure the teams don’t
get hold of the information that you find out with this research? Q: (Dominic Fugère – Le Journal de Montréal) Will new technical
regulations making overtaking easier have a big effect on race strategies? Q: (Maurice Hamilton – The Observer) What about the tracks? Teams
complained that in Turkey, turn eight in particular was far too bumpy. How far will you take on board what the teams say about that
when you’re looking at track design? Q: (Mike Doodson) Max, the FIA has now
got Ferrari commitment from 2008 onwards, but this hasn’t led to a huge response from other teams leaping to join them, so which
way do you see that going? HR: It is known you have a lot of secrets Max, so, on behalf of AMD, here’s a notebook of ours with fingerprint recognition so that if you do lose it then nobody else can use it. MM: Thanks very much. 2005 Italian Grand Prix - Main Page
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